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Post by FoolOnTheHill Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:20 pm

Feb. 11: Showdown in Egypt as Mubarak hangs on

Egypt’s people-power protesters, reeling with
disillusion and anger after President Hosni Mubarak disappointed hopes
he was about to resign, planned massive new demonstrations on Friday
that may test the army’s loyalties.

Link: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2011/February/middleeast_February323.xml§ion=middleeast

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:30 pm

Feb. 6: The shaping of a New World Order

The following description, I believe, sums up what Egypt faces today as well as, if not better, than most:
"It is not a revolution, not in the literal sense of the term, not a
way of standing up and straightening things out. It is the insurrection
of men with bare hands who want to lift the fearful weight, the weight
of the entire world order that bears down on each of us - but more
specifically on them, these ... workers and peasants at the frontiers of
empires. It is perhaps the first great insurrection against global
systems, the form of revolt that is the most modern and the most insane.
Link: http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/20112611181593381.html

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Feb. 10: The Lessons of the Egyptian Revolution for People Throughout the World



The courage of the Egyptian protesters - even in the face of extreme
police brutality - is obviously a large part of why the Egyptians
succeeded in kicking Mubarak out of office.Indeed, I think that
the Egyptians adopted the tactics of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr.,
to great effect. They were peaceful in the face of murder and
brutality by Mubarak's thugs, which discredited Mubarak in the eyes of
the world.
Link: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/02/lessons-of-egyptian-revolution-for.html

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:27 pm

Feb. 11: Now See The 11 Countries At Risk Of Becoming The Next Egypt

The Egyptian revolution is a challenge to state led authoritarian
capitalism, but it is also a response to rising food costs and soaring
unemployment. There is also the social media factor, which has allowed
protesters to circumvent traditional state run media sources and
organize more efficiently.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-next-revolution-after-egypt-2011-2?slop=1#ixzz1DgxmRAMM

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:39 pm

FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 9: Creative Destruction for a ‘Greater Middle East’? – F. William Engdahl



Fast on the heels of the regime change in Tunisia came a popular-based
protest movement launched on January 25 against the entrenched order of
Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak. Contrary to the carefully-cultivated impression
that the Obama Administration is trying to retain the present regime of
Mubarak, Washington in fact is orchestrating the Egyptian as well as
other regional regime changes from Syria to Yemen to Jordan and well
beyond in a process some refer to as “creative destruction.”

Link: http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2011/02/creative-destruction-for-greater-middle.html

Dont believe it. Egypt is way too big, a cauldron of discontent. Even if they tried, they are finding out they cant control it. Mexico is an example where they have applied a formula as successful as they can. But even that is only a temporary victory. We know that, they know that.

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:45 pm

FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 11: Now See The 11 Countries At Risk Of Becoming The Next Egypt

The Egyptian revolution is a challenge to state led authoritarian
capitalism, but it is also a response to rising food costs and soaring
unemployment. There is also the social media factor, which has allowed
protesters to circumvent traditional state run media sources and
organize more efficiently.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-next-revolution-after-egypt-2011-2?slop=1#ixzz1DgxmRAMM

Flour is the mainstay of their diet. Obviously they have to replace the strawberries they grow in the Delta for export to Europe, with wheat. Cash crops are disasterous for a country like Egypt. The priority is feeding not squeezing the people, so that instead of a few getting rich throwing crumbs to the rest, agriculture can be directed at the nutrition of the populace.

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Post by Claudia Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:04 pm

Jan.21 2011
"Tunisia Casts Shadow Over Arab Summit"

Moussa resigned today, has his eyes on the Egyptian Presidency? Too connected with all his diplomat positions, old guy from the old school of governing.
Egypt is ready for its young leaders.
Good article because it was written on the 21st....little did they know, lol


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/world/middleeast/20arab.html
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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:16 am

Mexico wrote:
FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 9: Creative Destruction for a ‘Greater Middle East’? – F. William Engdahl



Fast on the heels of the regime change in Tunisia came a popular-based
protest movement launched on January 25 against the entrenched order of
Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak. Contrary to the carefully-cultivated impression
that the Obama Administration is trying to retain the present regime of
Mubarak, Washington in fact is orchestrating the Egyptian as well as
other regional regime changes from Syria to Yemen to Jordan and well
beyond in a process some refer to as “creative destruction.”

Link: http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2011/02/creative-destruction-for-greater-middle.html

Dont believe it. Egypt is way too big, a cauldron of discontent. Even if they tried, they are finding out they cant control it. Mexico is an example where they have applied a formula as successful as they can. But even that is only a temporary victory. We know that, they know that.
Hi friend! I do hope that you are right and Egypt does seem different. But we need to always keep a very close eye on the politicians/banksters/elites who do not have our best interests in mind. And what they want more than anything right now is WW3. Mubarak was resisting and that is why the let him go. But things didn't quite go as they wanted/expected. Question: will they work behind the scenes to undermine the Egyptian revolution? That is the big question.

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:45 am

Mexico wrote:
FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 11: Now See The 11 Countries At Risk Of Becoming The Next Egypt

The Egyptian revolution is a challenge to state led authoritarian
capitalism, but it is also a response to rising food costs and soaring
unemployment. There is also the social media factor, which has allowed
protesters to circumvent traditional state run media sources and
organize more efficiently.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-next-revolution-after-egypt-2011-2?slop=1#ixzz1DgxmRAMM

Flour is the mainstay of their diet. Obviously they have to replace the strawberries they grow in the Delta for export to Europe, with wheat. Cash crops are disasterous for a country like Egypt. The priority is feeding not squeezing the people, so that instead of a few getting rich throwing crumbs to the rest, agriculture can be directed at the nutrition of the populace.
Very well-said friend. And that will become a big issue right here in the US. Just watch. The elites could not care less about us eating. BTW, I have all kinds of heirloom seeds I plan to grow. Not counting on anything.

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:59 am

Feb 12: Egypt government officials banned from traveling

Egypt's military relaxed a nighttime curfew today and banned current and
ex-government officials from traveling abroad without permission in its
first moves since taking power after President Hosni Mubarak's removal from
power.


Link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-government-officials-banned-from-traveling-2212867.html

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Feb. 12: Egyptian defense chief unknown in West, derided at home

Mohammed Hussein Tantawi is Egypt's deputy prime minister, defense
minister and commander-in-chief of the country's armed forces. In the
West, little is known about him, or how he intends to lead the Egyptian
military, now that it's in charge of the government.

Link: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/11/egypt.tantawi.profile/?hpt=C1

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:13 am

Feb 12: Egyptian gov't officials banned from traveling abroad

CAIRO
— Egypt's military relaxed a nighttime curfew Saturday and banned
current and ex-government officials from traveling abroad without
permission in its first moves since taking power after President Hosni
Mubarak's ouster.
Egyptians were hopeful Saturday but faced an
uncertain future, with many protesters vowing to stay camped in a
central Cairo square until they hear "clear assurances" that their
demands for democracy will be met.

Link: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207903

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:18 am

Feb. 11: Egypt: Controlled Chaos or True Liberation?

I don’t know about you, but I’m watching all this unfold in Egypt with a
kind of nervous scepticism. While many are saying this is the
beginning of an uprising chain-reaction that will bring in new life and
hope to other oppressed nations.

Link: http://theintelhub.com/2011/02/11/egypt-controlled-chaos-or-true-liberation/

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:36 am

Feb. 11: An Egyptian Voice of Democracy Says, Tell Old Pharaoh, Go

"The culture of democracy is still far away."
That's what Egypt's Vice President Omar Suleiman told a group of the
country's newspaper editors on Tuesday. It was just two days before
President Hosni Mubarak reconfirmed that he had no intention of
resigning until September. But on Friday, Mubarak was gone.

Link: http://www.truth-out.org/an-egyptian-voice-democracy-says-tell-old-pharaoh-go67673

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Post by 4EVAFREEisME Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:52 pm

FOTH
I don't wish to derail your thread, however I have posted articles including
Exchange of Letters between President Carter and Prime Minister Begin Regarding the Exchange of
Ambassadors between Egypt and Israel
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/iseglet.html

The Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty in full, without link. It's long...
Unable to provide link to this

Memorandum of Agreement between the Governments of the United
States of America and the State of Israel
(March 26, 1979)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/mou1975.html

There is more indepth article posted on this thread
https://littlesocknews.forumotion.com/t403-the-complete-israel-egypt-peace-treaty-including#8456
and those that wish to view the full Peace Treaty can do so there.
I post the above links in the interest of promoting discussion, and again not to derail your thread, but in the hopes of providing additional background.
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Post by FoolOnTheHill Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:23 am

Additional sources and additional discussion are most welcome. In fact, that is just what this is for. Here is a link sent to me by another Sock Fan, a general site that has a number of articles on Egypt (and elsewhere) all from a Coptic Christian perspective:

http://voiceofthecopts.org/en/

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Feb. 7: Ex-minister suspected behind Alex church bombing

Egypt's general prosecutor on Monday opened probe on former Interior
Minister Habib el-Adly's reported role in the New Year's Eve bombing of
al-Qiddissin Church in Alexandria in which 24 people were killed, an
Egyptian lawyer told Al Arabiya.

Link: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/02/07/136723.html

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Jan. 23: Egypt: Al Qaeda Group Bombed Christian Church

Egyptian officials have accused an al Qaeda-linked terror group
based in Gaza of carrying out a New Year's Day suicide attack that
killed 21 people and sparked riots.


Link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Egypt-Church-Bombing-Officials-Blame-Gaza-Based-Army-Of-Islam-For-Suicide-Attack-On-Christians/Article/201101415908607?chooseNews=videos

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:15 am

Feb. 13: Egypt's military rejects swift transfer of power and suspends constitution

The Egyptian military has rejected the demands of pro-democracy
protesters for a swift transfer of power to a civilian administration,
saying it intends to rule by martial law until elections are held.

Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/13/egypt-military-rejects-swift-power-handover

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Post by FoolOnTheHill Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:17 am

Feb. 14: Robert Fisk: Is the army tightening its grip on Egypt?

Two days after millions of Egyptians won their revolution against the regime
of Hosni Mubarak, the country's [color:edbf=blue ! important][color:edbf=blue ! important]army – led by Mubarak's lifelong friend,
General Mohamed el-Tantawi – further consolidated its power over Egypt
yesterday, dissolving parliament and suspending the constitution.

Link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/is-the-army-tightening-its-grip-on-egypt-2213849.html

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Post by snark Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:29 am

FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 7: Ex-minister suspected behind Alex church bombing

Egypt's general prosecutor on Monday opened probe on former Interior
Minister Habib el-Adly's reported role in the New Year's Eve bombing of
al-Qiddissin Church in Alexandria in which 24 people were killed, an
Egyptian lawyer told Al Arabiya.

Link: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/02/07/136723.html

Great articles y'all, and this is definitely one you should read if you didn't see it on Babsi's thread. There is more to this story...accusations from the ground include Gamal Mubarak and other key officials as also being involved.
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Post by FoolOnTheHill Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:26 am

snark wrote:
FoolOnTheHill wrote:Feb. 7: Ex-minister suspected behind Alex church bombing

Egypt's general prosecutor on Monday opened probe on former Interior
Minister Habib el-Adly's reported role in the New Year's Eve bombing of
al-Qiddissin Church in Alexandria in which 24 people were killed, an
Egyptian lawyer told Al Arabiya.

Link: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/02/07/136723.html

Great articles y'all, and this is definitely one you should read if you didn't see it on Babsi's thread. There is more to this story...accusations from the ground include Gamal Mubarak and other key officials as also being involved.
There is a lot coming out right now and I would think that at least some of the evil-doers and going to go down. But maybe not all of them. See my current concerns at https://littlesocknews.forumotion.com/t415p90-egypt-faces-the-future-sunday-13th-feb

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:32 pm

Here's a very good Le Monde article which brings to the fore the labor movement's long standing grievances (as researched by http://twitter.com/3arabawy ), and springing out from the face of the Facebook page revolution.

the last notable line...

The Facebook youth’s "revolution 2.0" may be over already. But for many Egyptians, the second phase of their revolution is just beginning.

Very interesting article followed by the original full Dream TV interview with Wael Ghonim (english subtitles).


http://mondediplo.com/blogs/revolution-2-0-phase-two

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