Egypt Rolling Updates Fri 11 Feb

BelgianBoy wrote:NDP website seems hacked. Now reads: "Closed until dropping Mubarak & the regime" http://bit.ly/eT68er

Good find BB

Now it says "save Egypt"

snark wrote:Janey, what do you think about this?

stember‎ RT @r4today: “I think there is a split in the [Egyptian] army” says Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen

Jeremy is a good guy and knows his stuff. I have been preaching this for what, 2 weeks now? So I totally agree. I just wonder how that split will play out on the streets

Huge crowds in Alexandria per AJ

snark wrote:Read on another site that prayers in Tahrir were the prayers of martyrdom



can't link for obvious reasons

yep Mr Muh, translated for us a few pages ago. Isn't it great we have an arabic speaker with us!

Janey wrote:

snark wrote:Read on another site that prayers in Tahrir were the prayers of martyrdom



can't link for obvious reasons

yep Mr Muh, translated for us a few pages ago. Isn't it great we have an arabic speaker with us!

for Muh

Tweet : Unconfirmed [#jan25 #Egypt #Tahrir #cairo] DistorNews: Mubarak and his family on an air plane to an unknown destination

Supreme council of the armed forces statment nr 3 will soon be issued

Sandmonkey's latest phttp://www.sandmonkey.org/2011/02/11/mubaraks-gamble/ost from 2 hrs ago:


mubarak's gamble:

Earlier yesterday, I spoke to Wael Ghonim and he told me to expect some very good news around 5 pm that night, but he never elaborated what it is. Around 10 am, we heard that Saudi Arabia, alongside UAE and Kuwait, are creating an aid package to Egypt to possibly replace that of the US. Around 4 pm last night, we recieved the news that the President itends to step down tonight and give all of his responsbilities to the VP, Omar Suleiman. The Army then convened and issued its first statement, in a meeting without Mubarak or his VP around 5 pm. Around 9 pm Egypt time, Obama did a speech congratulating the people of Egypt for their march for democracy, so it seemed like a done deal. Finally, an hour later than originally announced, President Hosny Mubarak , against all expectations and information, refused to step down from his post, and said that he refuses any foreign interference in Egypt. The White House then announced that it has been double-crossed by the Egyptian regime.

Now, what does this all mean?

Well, 4 main things:

1) Mubarak is not going to leave Office without bloodshed. Any attempt for a peaceful exit has been discarded by his regime, and they are intending to fight the will of the people until the end.

2) Mubarak has burned the image of Hossam Badrawy and the Wisemen council with his speech. Hossam Badrawy, the secretary general of the NDP, was the face of the NDP that announced Mubarak's intenetion to abdicate power later tonight. Now the man has no credibility. Same goes for the Wiseman Council, since Mubarak's speech was focused on how he has met their demands, which don't include him leaving. If most of them don't quit their posts today, I would be greatly surprised.

3) We are seeing the first possible split in the power structure in Egypt: It seems that the Armed forces are in one camp, and the president, intelligence agencies and the republican guard in another camp. If you add to the equation the Ministery of Interior and the protesters, you have 4 players right now in an intensely unpredictable power struggle. We are now awaiting the second statement from the High council of amred forces to clearify their position once and for all. Whether the Army is with or against the people will determine a lot of today's outcome.

4) Mubarak has now put the US in a corner: He double-crossed the White House, and announced his intentions to fight foriegn intervention. Adding to that the news of the arab aid, he is sending the US a clear message: "I could tell you and your aid to go to hell, and get the money from the arabs instead. Where does this leave your precious Israel? If you don't want us to cause problems on that front, you better shut up about what we will do and get with the program, or else!"

If you take all of those factors into consideration, the situation starts looking intensely ominous. If the regime and the army has split, we could see major fighting and bloodshed today. If the Army is with the President, then they will all turn their guns on the Protesters, who are determined not to live under Mubarak rule for one extra day. It also means that he put on the line the future of the transitional government with Omar Suleiman in charge, because Suleiman's fate seems intensely intertwined with the President now. This has become a fight for survival: it's either the regime or the people. The bad news is, the regime has all the weapon and organization. The good news is, the people are determined and increasing in numbers and the army might step in and save us all unnecessary bloodshed.

It all depends on the army's statement now.

The wait is killing me.

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Janey wrote:

Luna wrote:It seems the army are concerned that all of this is being orchestrated by the US and Hammas to take over Egypt! Do they really believe that the US and Hammas are working together on this? More like they don't want to lose their fat pay checks and nice fat back handers. I hope lower ranks of the military will refuse any orders to turn on the people but those snipers on top of the Cairo Presidential Palace are a concern because we know they were shooting into the Square last week.

remember too Luna that these are the elite presidential guard at the palace. They are very different from the regular army and are best seen as Mubaraks personal bodyguards

Yes, Presidential Guards and snipers but when the army first came to the streets they said they didn't have a lot of armory so even if they did decide to side with the people how will they do so without being armed to the hilt? Or, are the army now properly armed, on the streets? Even though not all the army is out yet how on earth would they make their way through all those crowds to help? So many unanswered questions about how this is going to go.

Tweet : : The barbed wire fences around the Presidential Compound have been electrocuted. Please warn people! #Egypt #Tahrir #Jan25

Belgian Boy did you see Wael's interview on AA? If you did can you translate??

trishzanetti‎ RT @SultanAlQassemi Wael @Ghonim: the people are like a football match between Ahli and Zamalek. #jan25 #egypt #pharaoh
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DangerGirl6‎ RT @AlArabiya_Eng: Activist Wael Ghonim to Al Arabiya: we need public freedom and freedom to form political parties
Alarabiya.net English | Front Page‎ - alarabiya.net
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DangerGirl6‎ RT @AlArabiya_Eng: Activist Wael Ghonim to Al Arabiya: we urge the army to guarantee the performance of all our demands
Alarabiya.net English | Front Page‎ - alarabiya.net
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danyfarha‎ RT @SultanAlQassemi: Wael @Ghonim: We demand freedom of speech, Ana El Feki (propaganda minister) must leave now
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trishzanetti‎ RT @ArabRevolution Wael: I am not commanding the streets. Don't think if I say go to the palace, the people will abide #jan25 #pharaoh
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kitty46kat‎ RT @khadijapatel: Wael @ghonim demanding the resignation of the information minister, demanding 'freedom of expression' #Jan25 #Egypt
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Just thinking out loud here but surely Mubarak must have a plan in place because surely he can't be that arrogant to think after his speech, last night, these people were just going to go home quietly and wait until September. Did he really expect them to just say ok and toddle off home?

AJE said the army will issue a 3rd statement within the hour.
And, good morning to you all.

This girl is tweeting from the Presidential Palace

http://twitter.com/NadiaE

oooh.... calls to speak to Mubarak in Hebrew because he doesn't understand Arabic!

Earth Cries wrote:AJE said the army will issue a 3rd statement within the hour.
And, good morning to you all.

Morning Earth Cries!!

snark wrote:Belgian Boy did you see Wael's interview on AA? If you did can you translate??

Huh? I speak 4 languages but not arabic.
Sorry.

Luna wrote:oooh.... calls to speak to Mubarak in Hebrew because he doesn't understand Arabic!

ROFL

BelgianBoy wrote:

snark wrote:Belgian Boy did you see Wael's interview on AA? If you did can you translate??

Huh? I speak 4 languages but not arabic.
Sorry.

So sorry!! I thought one of them was arabic. My bad!

snark wrote:

Luna wrote:oooh.... calls to speak to Mubarak in Hebrew because he doesn't understand Arabic!

ROFL

Totally hilarious and good to see the Egyptians keeping their sense of humour.

Seems people have taken complete control of the suez city!

Luna wrote:

snark wrote:

Luna wrote:oooh.... calls to speak to Mubarak in Hebrew because he doesn't understand Arabic!

ROFL

Totally hilarious and good to see the Egyptians keeping their sense of humour.

That was hilarious and my thoughts too and the sense of humor

Good Morning All!

I have a foggy thought as I wait for my coffee to kick in: Do you suppose the army is giving any thought to SA's financial aid replacing the US's? In other words, those higher ups who don't want to lose their fat checks by completely siding with the people, now need not worry as SA will keep the money flowing....therefor freeing them to 100% backing of the people?