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Post by Joe Bese Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:26 am

ZX12R wrote:
Janey wrote:UNSC emergency session later today also

Unfortunately, the Security Council is usually very reluctant to do much of anything on their own
without someone like the U.S. saying they will lead a coalition of countries willing to do something
about Gaddafi. Someone will need to lead the charge, then the U.N. would probably give their backing.

I have no expectations that Obama would be interested in undertaking that kind of risky endeavor.

Why the US? We pretty much cut off Libya years ago. Why can't Europeans pull up their pants and deal with this?
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Post by Babsi Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:30 am

Joe Bese wrote:
ZX12R wrote:
Janey wrote:UNSC emergency session later today also

Unfortunately, the Security Council is usually very reluctant to do much of anything on their own
without someone like the U.S. saying they will lead a coalition of countries willing to do something
about Gaddafi. Someone will need to lead the charge, then the U.N. would probably give their backing.

I have no expectations that Obama would be interested in undertaking that kind of risky endeavor.

Why the US? We pretty much cut off Libya years ago. Why can't Europeans pull up their pants and deal with this?

Considering the fact that re: oil this is mostly a conflict for the european countries, I agree in this case USA needs to keep low profile. Obama can not get involved and risk anything at this point, other than voicing his support for the Libyan people and ask for a stop of violence.
If there is a UN intervention, it should be lead by a european country.
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Post by ZX12R Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:32 am

Joe Bese wrote:
ZX12R wrote:
Janey wrote:UNSC emergency session later today also

Unfortunately, the Security Council is usually very reluctant to do much of anything on their own
without someone like the U.S. saying they will lead a coalition of countries willing to do something
about Gaddafi. Someone will need to lead the charge, then the U.N. would probably give their backing.

I have no expectations that Obama would be interested in undertaking that kind of risky endeavor.

Why the US? We pretty much cut off Libya years ago. Why can't Europeans pull up their pants and deal with this?

I said someone like the U.S.

Someone willing to step up. Usually, it's the U.S. or nobody. I wasn't advocating that they do it.
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Post by Janey Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:32 am

to confirm your posts from above. The latest I have is that about 60% of the army is with the people. It is hard to get accurate numbers as validated info is hard to come by. It is correct that the airforce are attacking the pro-people branches of the army who are in turn firing back.

It does look like we have now crossed into full civil war
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Post by BelgianBoy Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:34 am

Jazeera just reported: Statement some Libyan Military personals asks all members of the Libyan Army 2 go 2 Tripoli & remove #Gaddafi
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Post by Earth Cries Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:35 am

Had a horrible thought...what if the lunatic starts to bomb the neighboring countries?? I wouldn't put anything past him. He may want to take down the whole Mid East along with Libya.
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Post by Earth Cries Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:37 am

Suspend Libya from U.N. Human Rights Council, AJC demands

February 22, 2011

JERUSALEM (JTA) – The American Jewish Committee called on the United Nations General Assembly to suspend Libya’s membership in the U.N. Human Rights Council.

“The Gadhafi regime’s widespread use of brutal force against protestors makes a mockery of the U.N. Human Rights Council,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris said in a statement released Monday....

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/02/22/2743057/gadhafi-was-ready-to-work-with-diaspora-libyan-jews-expat-says
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Post by Earth Cries Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:38 am

#Libya: "We have reached the point of no return. We know if we don´t die in the streets they´ll kill us in our houses" #Feb17
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Post by Muhajiir Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:42 am

BelgianBoy wrote:Jazeera just reported: Statement some Libyan Military personals asks all members of the Libyan Army 2 go 2 Tripoli & remove #Gaddafi

That was yersterday night live on AJA....it seems its full scale war now between pro and anti gaddafi forces...
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Post by Muhajiir Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:42 am

John Kerry demands all oil comapnys to halt their work...and he urges arab and african nations to take harsh steps against libyan regime/AJA
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Post by ZX12R Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:43 am

Earth Cries wrote:Had a horrible thought...what if the lunatic starts to bomb the neighboring countries?? I wouldn't put anything past him. He may want to take down the whole Mid East along with Libya.

He doesn't have the ability to do that. His armed forces are small and poorly equipped. Egypt alone could destroy Libya's entire armed forces in a few days, and without any backing from other countries. Just my opinion.
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Post by Janey Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:43 am

latest: press are being briefed that Gadaffi intends to hand over some of his powers - no idea on which powers and to whom!
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Post by BelgianBoy Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:46 am

Janey wrote:latest: press are being briefed that Gadaffi intends to hand over some of his powers - no idea on which powers and to whom!

My god, so pathetic. Do they all read the same manual?
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Post by Luna Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:47 am

Janey wrote:latest: press are being briefed that Gadaffi intends to hand over some of his powers - no idea on which powers and to whom!

No doubt just going to hand more power to his sons! Who else could he possibly hand over power to? I can't even begin to wonder who else he'd trust because he's such a lunatic and it's impossible to begin reading what goes on in his head.
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Post by Babsi Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:47 am

Earth Cries wrote:Had a horrible thought...what if the lunatic starts to bomb the neighboring countries?? I wouldn't put anything past him. He may want to take down the whole Mid East along with Libya.

That's my biggest concern right now...he already is ticked at Egypt and Tunisia for having inspired the uprising in his country. Bracing myself here..
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Post by ZX12R Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:48 am

BelgianBoy wrote:
Janey wrote:latest: press are being briefed that Gadaffi intends to hand over some of his powers - no idea on which powers and to whom!

My god, so pathetic. Do they all read the same manual?

LOL! "Dictator Survival for Dummies"

This is pure desperation, and is a joke of monumental proportions.
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Post by Janey Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:49 am

Luna wrote:
Janey wrote:latest: press are being briefed that Gadaffi intends to hand over some of his powers - no idea on which powers and to whom!

No doubt just going to hand more power to his sons! Who else could he possibly hand over power to? I can't even begin to wonder who else he'd trust because he's such a lunatic and it's impossible to begin reading what goes on in his head.

the latest leak is that he will offer power to local "assemblies" of citizens, forming regional councils.

I think he is doing a Mubarak, too little too late
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Post by Janey Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:49 am

oh and Luna, check your PMs pls Smile
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Post by Paddy Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:50 am

Hi all.

Any word about the two ships that left Turkey yesterday to pick up Turkish people in Libya.?
The ships should be at Libya port soon.
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Post by Earth Cries Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:52 am

Babsi wrote:
Earth Cries wrote:Had a horrible thought...what if the lunatic starts to bomb the neighboring countries?? I wouldn't put anything past him. He may want to take down the whole Mid East along with Libya.

That's my biggest concern right now...he already is ticked at Egypt and Tunisia for having inspired the uprising in his country. Bracing myself here..

Even if his military is poorly equipped, all it would take is one plane flying under the radar and dropping a payload on a city in one of the neighboring countries. Instant flashpoint.
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Post by Muhajiir Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:52 am

Mad dog speaks now!!
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Post by ZX12R Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:53 am

Muhajiir wrote:Mad dog speaks now!!

Please summarize what the dog says.
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Post by Muhajiir Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:55 am

He says Libya is the center of the world and europe and latin america and africia and asia is under the command of libya!!
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Post by Earth Cries Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:55 am

#Libya Army is heading it's way West from #Benghazi ,the Army is expanding the "No-Gaddafi Land".Finally Libyans get their Freedom. #Feb17
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Post by Muhajiir Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:56 am

He says I can't resign, because I am not a leader, I'm a commander of a revolution...and that is a life long mission..this is my country and my grandfatrhers country
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