Libya Turmoil - Wednesday 23rd

Godzilla85 wrote:

Lime Flavoured wrote:I say just tell the rebels to leave and the have the USAF bomb Tripoli. It wont happen, but maybe it should.

that's what I'm talking about lime

Hopefully not, that would be a foolish move. The US would be wise to stay out of this mess. Think about it. If the middle east explodes and the US gets heavily involved, this will open the back door for China. As strong as the US is, they would not be able to withstand two major theatres of war without the assistance of Russia, and this time it will not be a recreation of WW2, as Russia is eager to stab the US in the back ever since the collapse of the soviet union.

Strategically the M-E is essentially a trap for US interests. To elaborate further, war needs funding. You don't simply bomb countries without the means to do so. As Ron Paul has stated before (and he is very correct in stating this), US foreign influence has reached the point of critical mass, and can no longer be maintained without bankrupting the nation.

As much as it pains me to think of the consequences of monetary reform (also needed here in Canada as well, we are one and the same), deep budgetary cuts are required, now, and manufacturing HAS to start coming back to North America. I'm afraid "outsourcing" will be a word used frequently in history books, as what led to the collapse of western society.

The challenge? China is creating cheap products, and their workers earn pennies on the dollar. The end-game is pulling the plug on developing China, or HEAVILY taxing raw material exports to China (which they rely on to maintain production), to essentially drive their manufacturing costs through the roof until we can then compete again in manufacturing. Economic warfare? Yes. Necessary? I think so.

Muhajiir wrote:Breaking: A libyan fighter jet have exploded after crew jump with parashute in east libya.

The crew jumped after refusing orders to bomb civilians benghazi

so the plane was shut down??
i assume they wouldnt have jumped if they hadnt a target lock on themselves

Hague- HMS Cumberland group will arrive off Libya coast tonight with rapid deployment teams.

Hague - We dont rule out sending the military to evacuate British nationals without Libyan permission

Hague - requests all nationals and UK companies with Libyan representation to contact UK Govt urgently.

Situation in Libya very different to Egypt and Tunisia - civil strife with breakdown of law and order

Janey wrote:Hague - We dont rule out sending the military to evacuate British nationals without Libyan permission

That could get nasty, but it's probably necessary.

Lime Flavoured wrote:Tweet:

BREAKING -- STOCKHOLM (AP) — Swedish paper: Libyan justice minister says has proof Gadhafi ordered Lockerbie bombing

http://twitter.com/#!/mpoppel/status/40416632568287232

If they could prove that then the UK (and indeed the US) would probably be justified in using force, even though the event happened in 1988.

Here is the article, use google translate from swedish to your language
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2341356/khadaffi-gav-order-om-lockerbie-attentatet

Janey wrote:Hague- HMS Cumberland group will arrive off Libya coast tonight with rapid deployment teams.

Time to break some balls my fellow brits . British SAS incoming. Special forces teams train for these types of events for a lifetime.

In other news.. Canadian Special Forces (JTF2) were arrested at Tim Hortons LMAO, by local law enforcement when someone called in stating they seen an unmarked truck with what appeared to be heavy weaponry inside. Luckily for the RCMP they already had their coffee, or the outcome could have been much different

Here you go. More fuel for the fire. Don't know where to post this.

Official: Iran, NKorea are in 'one trench'

link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110223/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_north_korea

One thing is for sure, We (all of us) are in deep,deep sh*t soon if one of these goofy fu*ks
push this much farther.....IMHO

In tripoli, the morgues will only release the bodies to family members, if they sign that they were killed by the revolution youth and NOT by mercenaries !

Changeinlibya

Muhajiir wrote:

Lime Flavoured wrote:Tweet:

BREAKING -- STOCKHOLM (AP) — Swedish paper: Libyan justice minister says has proof Gadhafi ordered Lockerbie bombing

http://twitter.com/#!/mpoppel/status/40416632568287232

If they could prove that then the UK (and indeed the US) would probably be justified in using force, even though the event happened in 1988.

Here is the article, use google translate from swedish to your language
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2341356/khadaffi-gav-order-om-lockerbie-attentatet

Here's a different link in English:

http://amerpundit.com/2011/02/23/libyan-justice-minister-al-jleil-says-gaddafi-ordered-lockerbie-bombing/

Libyan Justice Minister Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil on Wednesday told a Swedish newspaper that Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi ordered the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, which killed 270 people.
Al-Jleil told Stockholm-based newspaper Expressen that Gaddafi was the person who gave the order to bomb Pan Am Flight 103, a daily scheduled transatlantic flight from London Heathrow Airport to John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.
"I have evidence that Gaddafi ordered the Lockerbie bombing," Al-Jleil was cited as saying by Expressen. "To hide this, he did everything in his power to get Megrahi back from Scotland."
Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was convicted of being behind the Lockerbie bombing, but was released in 2009 on compassionate grounds and returned to Libya.

Both Al-Arabiya & BBC now reporting that up to 10,000 killed in #Libya so far.

Unconfirmed.

Praetorian wrote:

Janey wrote:Hague- HMS Cumberland group will arrive off Libya coast tonight with rapid deployment teams.

Time to break some balls my fellow brits . British SAS incoming. Special forces teams train for these types of events for a lifetime.

In other news.. Canadian Special Forces (JTF2) were arrested at Tim Hortons LMAO, by local law enforcement when someone called in stating they seen an unmarked truck with what appeared to be heavy weaponry inside. Luckily for the RCMP they already had their coffee, or the outcome could have been much different

SAS extraction teams are not on the Cumberland

TimReidBBC Tim Reid
Swedish tabloid Expressen reporting ex #Libya justice minister Mustafa Abdel-Jalil claims that Gaddafi personally ordered Lockerbie bombing

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
CONFIRMED: Eye-witness reports gun shots in East and West parts of Tripoli

#Libya Lebanon has refused request 2 accept aircraft from Libya w members of Gaddafi family aboard http://deck.ly/~hQSEv < Good sign

Unconfirmed.

Lurker wrote:

Muhajiir wrote:Breaking: A libyan fighter jet have exploded after crew jump with parashute in east libya.

The crew jumped after refusing orders to bomb civilians benghazi

so the plane was shut down??
i assume they wouldnt have jumped if they hadnt a target lock on themselves

They dumped the plane rather than bomb people and did not want to go back to the base where they would be in trouble for not following orders.

Janey wrote:

Praetorian wrote:

Janey wrote:Hague- HMS Cumberland group will arrive off Libya coast tonight with rapid deployment teams.

Time to break some balls my fellow brits . British SAS incoming. Special forces teams train for these types of events for a lifetime.

In other news.. Canadian Special Forces (JTF2) were arrested at Tim Hortons LMAO, by local law enforcement when someone called in stating they seen an unmarked truck with what appeared to be heavy weaponry inside. Luckily for the RCMP they already had their coffee, or the outcome could have been much different

SAS extraction teams are not on the Cumberland

Maybe they should be

France24 say 450 bodies were found in a school near an hospital in tripoli

3h ago or so

???

For info. Janey: reserve a trhead for this!
:-)

https://www.facebook.com/K.S.A.Revolution?sk=info

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The Fed needs to print oil now

LOL!

We have received confirmation from the ground that the city of Zwaara is now in the hands of the protesters and under their control. This is a very strategic location as it is approximately 58km away from the Libyan Tunisian border.

Caller on BBC says: its a lot more serious then people are saying, they are bombing peoples houses

Hi Jedi Janey and lovely people. Just passing through to say hi

AJE: civilian Lybian plane tries to land. Circling around, Malta on high alert.